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From: newsletter-noreply@fhug.org.uk<\/a> <newsletter-noreply@fhug.org.uk<\/a>> Sent: 20 December 2023 08:18 To: icfamilyhistory1948@gmail.com<\/a> Subject: This week’s active discussion topics in the FHUG Forums
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\nThis weeks active discussion topics in the forums of the Family Historian User Group www.fhug.org.uk<\/a>
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\n** Wish List Topics ** ___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Hyperlinked footnote references in reports ***
\nWriting programs that one might use for producing a final report often can recognize hyperlinked references to footnotes. Scrivener is an example of one such program. It is used by quite a few people to write their family stories based on the output from a genealogical program.
\nHaving . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=43&t=21783<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 09:55am Started by Gary_G Monday 10th Apr 23 04:42pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Name Filtering to handle inconsistent entry or miss slashing of names ***
\nName Filtering
\nRequirement
\nThe Name Filter Function in the Records Window and Selection dialogues should be able to handle situations where Names have been miss-slashed or inconsistently slashed (e.g. Compound Surnames, Patronymics and Toponymics). It should be more tolerant . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=43&t=21168<\/a>
\nLast updated by johnmorrisoniom Wednesday 13th Dec 23 03:23pm Started by davidf Monday 14th Nov 22 01:24pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Adding Bookmarks for Sources ***
\nWhen adding a citation to a fact, one can right-click the chosen source in the Select source… dialogue box and then select Add Bookmark from the context menu.
\nIt would be nice if this feature also applied to sources listed in the Record Window Sources tab.
\nI knew I read . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=43&t=22015<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 04:48pm Started by Gowermick Tuesday 20th Jun 23 10:42am
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Additional Formatting Options for Bibliography, Footnotes etc. ***
\nI support 22449|’Free Form’ Citation Entry capability item being created. It would apply not only to EE but to many citation styles which utilise a combination of formatting styles (italics, bold, etc).
\nEssentially, what I would like to see is the ability to use rich text . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=43&t=22453<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 04:54pm Started by sbell95 Wednesday 8th Nov 23 05:52am
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Tooltip for the fact note field ***
\nThe facts\/witness note field is probably used in a great number of different ways.
\nAs a (long ago) TMG refugee I started with using delimiters to divide the note field into ‘sub-notes’. Then I found out that in FH with GetParagrah CR\/LF could be used as a delimiter. Seemed . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=43&t=19415<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 06:02pm Started by JoopvB Saturday 15th May 21 02:36pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Add new tab for citations in Source tab. ***
\nWould love to see a tab added to the sources property dialog that displays a list of citations for that source similar to what is done with the citations to source record under the view menu, but auto updates so you don’t have keep running the command.
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=43&t=22326<\/a>
\nLast updated by tatewise Thursday 14th Dec 23 03:34pm Started by rcpettit Saturday 7th Oct 23 07:37pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Enhance right click context menu in ‘How Related’ diagrams ***
\nWhen using the How Related Diagram, it would be very useful to have the Diagram > Family Connection Mapper…’ menu item available as a right click context menu item, as it is entirely relevant to that diagram, and not entirely obvious that it is used for line colours etc. . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=43&t=21689<\/a>
\nLast updated by victor Friday 15th Dec 23 10:17am Started by neil40 Wednesday 15th Mar 23 04:02pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Better ways to find where records are used ***
\nThis is a spin-off from the thread 22326|Add new tab for citations in Source tab.
\nProblem: Currently, there are several inconsistent ways to find where records are used:
\nView > Record Links… command. However, this only lists the host records where the chosen record . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=43&t=22561<\/a>
\nLast updated by LornaCraig Saturday 16th Dec 23 12:01am Started by tatewise Thursday 14th Dec 23 10:19pm
\n** Non Wishlist Topics ** ___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** On Hold until 13 Dec 2024: Edit Text Scheme: Block Operations ***
\nThis request concerns the editing controls Add item (Available to Used), Clone Line, Move Up\/Down and Copy\/Paste. For me it is a long-desired enhancement, suppressed until the revelation that I am not alone in relying heavily on diagrams!
\nContext:
\n Adding an Available . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=80&t=20219<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 09:39am Started by dbnut Thursday 20th Jan 22 11:36am
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** On Hold until 13 Dec 2024: Diagram Text Schemes: Family of Variants ***
\nThis request concerns maintaining a family of related diagram text schemes, with common layout and style, but with different levels of detail (content).
\nIt builds on ideas arising from Wish List Request “Edit Text Scheme: Block Operations”.
\nContext:
\n I try to maintain . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=80&t=20221<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 09:42am Started by dbnut Thursday 20th Jan 22 02:15pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** On Hold until 13 Dec 2024: Dating and Usage of Names and Alternate Names ***
\nWhere individuals are known by different names at different times, there is a need to be able to record effectivity dates of the alternative names.
\nAdditionally it would be useful to be able to associate specific alternative names with specific facts.
\n(This arose from . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=80&t=21136<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 09:45am Started by davidf Sunday 6th Nov 22 04:55pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** On Hold until 13 Dec 2024: Abbreviated Place Names ***
\nMy forebears were mostly 19th century migrants from England, Scotland and Ireland who went to the US, Canada, South Africa, Australia and NZ. As these outposts of the Empire were settled, many localities were given place names from the UK. Thus there are multiple places . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=80&t=21568<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 09:51am Started by RJDoggett Wednesday 15th Feb 23 10:12pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** [Already Implemented] Weblinks in Notes ***
\nWhen doing a copy\/paste from some websites into notes, some web links are also copied. Edit weblink doesn’t allow you to remove these links, so I have to delete and then retype the info without the link. We need a way to remove all weblinks in a note or at least the selected . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=46&t=22055<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 09:57am Started by rcpettit Wednesday 5th Jul 23 02:16pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Census Roles ***
\nI convert my RM9 over to FH and working on my census sources. I’m a lumper and use the witness feature to record roles, but found when I export to another program, they don’t get exported with each role not getting a copy of the citation. So I’m splitting my sources as . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=77&t=22536<\/a>
\nLast updated by tatewise Wednesday 13th Dec 23 11:22am Started by rcpettit Sunday 10th Dec 23 10:51pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** [Wish List Item 627] User display of Footnote, Bibliography & Short Footnote text ***
\nBackground: Users have requested ways to include formatted Footnote, Bibliography & Short Footnote text in Queries, Reports, Exported GEDCOM files, etc, in threads such as: 22439|footnote, short footnote, and bibliography text 21649|RM7 -> FH7, lost some citation formatting, . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=46&t=22454<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 02:13pm Started by tatewise Thursday 9th Nov 23 12:09pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** [No support] Date entry abbreviations ***
\nA very minor (but as a result possibly simple request).
\nWhen entering two “between” dates, FH is quite restrictive on what it accepts.
\n btw 1914 and 1918 is accepted
\nbetween 1914 and 1918 is accepted but is immediately displayed as btw 1914 and 1918
\nbtwn is rejected . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=46&t=21662<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 02:23pm Started by ColinMc Wednesday 8th Mar 23 07:46pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** On Hold until 13 Dec 2024: Diagram Format Dialogue Box ***
\nWhen in design mode in a new diagram, it would be useful to have the option to have the Format Dialogue Box permanently visible, so that one can quickly edit the element currently highlighted.
\nWith a potential for a multitude of text boxes in a single Diagram, it is not . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=80&t=18380<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Wednesday 13th Dec 23 02:25pm Started by Gowermick Tuesday 15th Dec 20 12:03pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** FMP Gedcom to FH – Beginners Questions ***
\nHi all
\nI’m completely brand new to FH, so please excuse what may seem as some very basic questions! I must confess I have found a lot of the information given in the knowledge base has so far gone straight over my head, and also some of the help given here in the forum!
\nI’ve . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=40&t=22535<\/a>
\nLast updated by ergo Wednesday 13th Dec 23 04:44pm Started by GromitsMuse Sunday 10th Dec 23 10:16pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** On hold until 13 Dec 2024: Ability to make a new copy of existing citation. ***
\nIt would be really useful, when creating a new citation, to be able to use the details from an existing citation for the new citation. Quite often, a new citation only difers from an existing citation by one or two characters, so to be able to make use of what is already . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=80&t=18344<\/a>
\nLast updated by dbnut Wednesday 13th Dec 23 08:50pm Started by Gowermick Saturday 12th Dec 20 12:54pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Source and Citation confusion ***
\nWhy is it so hard to create a stand alone source and add multiple citations to it. It was a piece of cake in legacy 9 to create a census for 1930 Alabama, Jefferson County then add individual citations for each page. I can’t find any way to do that. And if I want multiple . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=32&t=21670<\/a>
\nLast updated by KFN Wednesday 13th Dec 23 08:57pm Started by Curtis_Barnes Saturday 11th Mar 23 07:30pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** [Wish List Item 628] Save Diagram As Custom Dialogue ***
\nWhen saving Diagram using the Save Diagram As\/ Custom Diagram, show the user the list of currently saved Custom Diagrams. This gives them the choice of creating a new Diagram, or replacing\/updating an existing one.
\nCurrently, if the user chooses a Name for their Custom . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=46&t=18381<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Thursday 14th Dec 23 10:16am Started by Gowermick Tuesday 15th Dec 20 12:14pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** DNA research question ***
\nMy son\u2019s maternal ancestry looks like this:
\nMy son (known) His mother (known) His grandfather (known but deceased) His great-grandfather (known but deceased) His great-grandfather (known but deceased) His 2g grandfather, 1827-1881 ((known but deceased) His 3g grandfather . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=39&t=22554<\/a>
\nLast updated by jelv Thursday 14th Dec 23 02:38pm Started by Robert Jacobs Wednesday 13th Dec 23 11:41pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** How to Record 1921 Census Employment ***
\nThe England & Wales 1921 Census captured three fields around “Occupation and Employment” – Personal Occupation, Employment and Place of Work. Anyone that looks at a few of these documents will soon find out that all sorts of responses were added in all three columns, not . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=32&t=22541<\/a>
\nLast updated by ADC65 Thursday 14th Dec 23 08:36pm Started by ADC65 Tuesday 12th Dec 23 07:17pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Reusing a Source with a new citation ***
\nI’m confused with terminology again!
\nI have a Source, it is a book that contains a page by page history of my family!
\nOn page 98 is my great grandfather. On page 91 is my great-great grandfather
\nI want to source and cite this information.
\nFor my great grandfather I click . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=77&t=22552<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Friday 15th Dec 23 08:25am Started by KFN Wednesday 13th Dec 23 05:44pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Focus Window change of behaviour ***
\nWhat do you expect to happen if you double-left-click anywhere in a person’s box on the Focus Window?
\nCurrently, in FH V7, it does the same as a single-left-click and simply displays the Property Box for the person.
\nI am convinced it also used to make the person the Focus . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=32&t=22562<\/a>
\nLast updated by tatewise Friday 15th Dec 23 01:11pm Started by tatewise Friday 15th Dec 23 12:23pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Is including married names advised? ***
\nI’ve started to clean up a French project to import to FH7 from R9. In the RM9 database. I have large number of people for whom the data includes the their married name as an alternative name. This is an artifact of having imported many records from MyHeritage. I’m now considering . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=75&t=22540<\/a>
\nLast updated by Gary_G Friday 15th Dec 23 07:43pm Started by Gary_G Tuesday 12th Dec 23 05:56pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Check for possible duplicated Media 1.4 ***
\nRan this today and it came up with an error. Unsure if it is relevant but this is the first time I have run it since putting the FH folder on to OneDrive.
\nimage.png
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=42&t=22511<\/a>
\nLast updated by Mark1834 Saturday 16th Dec 23 08:28am Started by peterbel Sunday 3rd Dec 23 12:13pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Media Column Configuration – Expression Selection ***
\nI am trying to create two new columns in the Media Records List to tell me where I have attached a Source to a Media record. This goes back to a previous FH Forum topic where Mike explained the two different areas that can be used to attach a source record – In my case, . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=73&t=22564<\/a>
\nLast updated by tatewise Saturday 16th Dec 23 05:57pm Started by Chrisv Saturday 16th Dec 23 03:59pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Custom Source Templates ***
\nI Cloned a Source Template with the following identifiers: Collection: Custom Category: Same as the original Subcategory: Same as the original Template: Same as the original
\nI’m now trying to use the template. But when I, Add Citation => Add New Source From Template . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=77&t=22560<\/a>
\nLast updated by KFN Saturday 16th Dec 23 06:28pm Started by KFN Thursday 14th Dec 23 07:12pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** How to get correct date format for dates before christ? ***
\nHi,
\nI am new here and currently evaluate FH7. I am using MyHeritage for more than 15 years, but I would like to print specific reports and diagrams, especially relationship diagrams.
\nImporting the GEDCOM worked mostly, but some media data is missing. But this isn’t currently . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=32&t=22557<\/a>
\nLast updated by egn Sunday 17th Dec 23 09:36am Started by egn Thursday 14th Dec 23 01:35pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Queries – AND vs OR for multiple expressions ***
\nWhen writing a query it seems that the system assumes an “OR” function. For example, I want a list of all individuals with a given name that includes “Sarah” and were born in the year 1840.
\nSo I wrote the query: And if %INDI.NAME:GIVEN_ALL% contains “Sarah” And if %INDI.BIRT.DATE:YEAR% . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=32&t=22566<\/a>
\nLast updated by StephensKS Sunday 17th Dec 23 12:34pm Started by StephensKS Saturday 16th Dec 23 09:12pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Backup failure ***
\nI was backing up my project and it failed because the P.C closed down, after reloading my pc and starting Family Historian I received the message when attempting to back up again,
\n“A problem Occurred. Task may not have completed correctly.”
\nI would be grateful for guidance . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=32&t=22565<\/a>
\nLast updated by tatewise Sunday 17th Dec 23 01:57pm Started by seadog Saturday 16th Dec 23 05:36pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Moving Fields btw Source Record Level and Citation Level ***
\nI have a feeling that this has been mentioned but, not being a Template Source user, I don’t remember if that’s true or not.
\nThis is a spin-off from a recent thread about moving the Page Number of a Book type Source Template Definition in the Advanced Collection from the . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=77&t=22568<\/a>
\nLast updated by AdrianBruce Sunday 17th Dec 23 08:47pm Started by AdrianBruce Sunday 17th Dec 23 06:06pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Branch Merging ***
\nI can’t figure out “how to” of branch merging. I’ve read and reread the documentation and understand the concept but need some step-by-step instructions.
\nSpecific questions:
\nHow big a branch can be merged? Is it just immediate family or can you go back many generations. . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=32&t=22539<\/a>
\nLast updated by StephensKS Sunday 17th Dec 23 09:32pm Started by StephensKS Tuesday 12th Dec 23 03:41pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** importing gedcom + media from MyHeritage ***
\nHello,
\nWhen I import a MH gedcom including media links, the media links appear as “broken” because they refer to internet links. Many other programs automatically download the linked medias, rename them and create the necessary links. FH does not. Is there a plugin that . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=40&t=22349<\/a>
\nLast updated by egn Monday 18th Dec 23 07:43am Started by OlivierM Sunday 15th Oct 23 08:59am
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Repository Use ***
\nI’m probably asking for too much considering that the Repository Record seams to go unused by many in the sourcing process.
\nI use the Repository and the Source_Record.REPO.CALN tag to identify where in libraries, online sources and cemeteries a particular source was found! . . .
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=77&t=22559<\/a>
\nLast updated by tatewise Monday 18th Dec 23 12:45pm Started by KFN Thursday 14th Dec 23 04:18pm
\n___________________________________________________________________________________
\n*** Note Records article ***
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/kb\/kb-article\/note-records\/<\/a>
\nWhat Restrictions Are There?
\nFH does not currently support formatted notes, other than paragraphs.
\n\ud83d\ude44
\nwww.fhug.org.uk\/vt.php?f=67&t=22570<\/a>
\nLast updated by ColeValleyGirl Monday 18th Dec 23 04:17pm Started by jelv Monday 18th Dec 23 03:20pm<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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